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 Post subject: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:48 pm 
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Post and discuss all general info about Giovanni Michelotti here.
You may start new topics on specific cars, projects and makes designed and bodied by Giovanni's own coachbuilding company.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:31 am 
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Here is the impressive list of Michelotti's work:

http://www.michelotti.com/

click on L'ELENCO DELLE VETTURE FIRMATE MICHELOTTI


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:57 pm 
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Giovanni Michelotti wasn't a coaches producer, indeed, he never had a own plant until 1966. He was "only" a designer with a studio in Turin at the beginning.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:58 pm 
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PG1964 wrote:
Giovanni Michelotti wasn't a coachbuilder, indeed, he never had a own plant.


But there are cars made that wear a 'Carrozzeria Michelotti' badge (e.g. Alfa Romeo Goccia).
So if your statement is correct, who made those?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:07 pm 
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The wooden buck of that Ferrari is a design by Giorgetto Giugiaro, made when employed by Bertone.

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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:35 pm 
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The script carrozzeria Michelotti in italian, sounds like "body made by Michelotti".


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:38 pm 
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Michiel Mobiel wrote:
The wooden buck of that Ferrari is a design by Giorgetto Giugiaro, made when employed by Bertone.

Yes i know, but i hadn't one wooden model with Michelotti, it's just for example of a scale model 1:1, i'm sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Coincidently, I'm just reading a magazine that I bought today on the, for Alfisti, very interesting 'Interclassics & Topmobiel 'oldtimer fair in Maastricht the Netherlands named "Carrozzeria Italiana Periodico ufficiale dell'anfia # gruppo carrozzieri" (anno 1 N°1 1990).

In the Michelotti chapter under 'History' there is written:"...By 1959 continued success persuaded him [Michelotti] that it was time to open his own workshop. Here he built models, prototypes and a limited number of cars, both for the many firms for whom he worked and on his own account. ..."

So I don't know what to think of it.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:52 pm 
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And I've read an article of the production of the BMWturbo concept which was designed by Paul Bracq, but the body was built on a wooden frame by the Michelotti workshop in Torino...


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Michelotti opened a workshop in Turin in 1959, to build models and part of bodies. Here he could build the body for a prototype, but there wasn't a paint room.
Because he had to present a product at the international shows, he took another workshop in Beinasco, near Turin. He moved definitively to Orbassano to work better in a bigger new shed where he built prototypes and some small productions (Shelette). Here he designed also the DAF siluro, the BMW turbo, the Lancia Beta Mizar, the LEM electrical and more than 20 show cars. In the early 70's the world oil crisis arrived, the era of coachbuilders in Italy was nearly at the end, while abroad was already over. In fact, for many reasons, the coachbuilders disappeared from 1968 on, except for those 2/3 companies who already had a big factory. Michelotti worked to his projects until the last day before he passed away.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:53 pm 
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Free-lance designer, Giovanni Michelotti worked in his studio, located Corso Francia 35, in Torino. After his contracts with Triumph and BMW at the end of the fifties, Giovanni Michelotti had enough money to open his own “carrozzeria”in 1960 or 1961.
I don’t know where this workshop was located, but we can read in the Alberto Fornai book that in 1964, he moved to a place called Borgaro, and in 1967,to new premises in Orbassano, Strada Torino 27.
Here is a (non exhaustive) list of the cars he built in his carrozzeria :

- 1961 Osca 1600 GT
- 1961 Alfa Romeo Conrero Goccia
- 1962 Maserati 5000 GT
- 1962 Hino coupé Contessa Sprint 900
- 1962 Nardi “Silver Ray”
- 1963 Alfa Romeo Roger Boudot
- 1963 Triumph Conrero Le Mans
- 1963 Jaguar Type D (chassis XKD 513)
- 1964 Fiat 2300 coupé Tigullio
- 1966 Fiat 2300 S coupé
- 1967 Ford Mustang Maniero
- 1967 Daf Kini (offered to the Royal family of Nederland)
- 1967 Ferrari 330GT spider
- 1968 Opel Excalibur (Bugatti replica)
- 1968 Daf 55 Siluro
- 1968 Daf 55 Shellette (beach car)
- 1968 Fiat 850 Shellette (beach car, 80 copies)
- 1968 Fiat 850 coupé
- 1968 Triumph TR5 Ginevra
- 1968 Ferrari 275 P NART
- 1970 Fiat 125 S coupé
- 1971 Matra 530 Laser
- 1972 Fiat 128 Pulsar
- 1972 Fiat 132 Flares
- 1974 Lancia Beta Mizar
- 1974 LEM electric city car
- 1974 Ferrari 365 GTB spider
- 1975 Fiat 126 city car
- 1975 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 spider NART targa
- 1976 Ferrari 365 GT beach car
- 1978 Fiat 127 Every-
- 1980 Ferrari 365 GTB spider NART

To these cars, we must add some prototypes built by Carrozzeria Michelotti, but whose design is due to the centre style of car makers :
- Fiat (“security prototypes” at the beginning of the 70’s)
- 1972 BMW Turbo (styled by Paul Bracq)
- 1977 Opel coupé with sliding doors

I am most interested in the Giovanni Michelotti work and I am planning to write a book about his work, from his begginings in Stabilimenti Farina, to his own creatiions, built by Vignale, Allemano, Bertone, Ghia, Ghia Aigle, OSI, and lesser known coachbuilders like Canta, Mantelli, Monterosa, Scioneri,Ostuni (the list seems endless)…
If the members of this forum can help with copies of period photographs (only period photographs, please !), I would be very grateful ! Don’t hesitate to contact me.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:39 pm 
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Do you have a more accurate designation for the 1977 "Opel Coupé with sliding doors"?
Because the Opel GT2 was from 1975.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:41 pm 
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And I have forgotten the most important photograph in my precedent post :
the one of Giovanni Michelotti's workshop, in the early sixties : we can see Giovanni Michelotti standing with a pretty lady, in front of Cunningham's Maserati 5000 GT. At the front, we can see the Triumph Conrero Le Mans (left) and the Alfa Romeo Goccia.
And I had also forgotten the colour photograph of the Triumph Conrero Le Mans. Here they are !


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:29 am 
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Michiel Mobiel wrote:
The wooden buck of that Ferrari is a design by Giorgetto Giugiaro, made when employed by Bertone.

Ferrari 250GT, telaio #3269GT. A youthful can G.G. (left) watch proudly his second brainchild on a Ferrari frame.
The car belongs now to a well known Californian collector, painted again in the original dark blue, registered DLR 31333.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:37 pm 
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phaeton wrote:
File comment: 1961Fiat Osca 1500 convertible. There was also a coupé. It seems to have inspired the Lancia Fulvia coupé !


Absolutely not! Designing the Fulvia, Castagnero was inspired by a motorboat. This is a well known fact.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:50 pm 
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phaeton wrote:
I am most interested in the Giovanni Michelotti work and I am planning to write a book about his work, from his begginings in Stabilimenti Farina, to his own creatiions, built by Vignale, Allemano, Bertone, Ghia, Ghia Aigle, OSI, and lesser known coachbuilders like Canta, Mantelli, Monterosa, Scioneri,Ostuni (the list seems endless)…
If the members of this forum can help with copies of period photographs (only period photographs, please !), I would be very grateful ! Don’t hesitate to contact me.


A few months ago the ASI published the book "Vignale con Michelotti designer", it's not very interesting, but the photos are good and this is the first book on this argument.
This is the link for the order form:
http://www.asifed.it/download/ita_modul ... 62&idlv=30


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:45 pm 
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phaeton wrote:

- 1963 Alfa Romeo Roger Boudot
- 1967 Ford Mustang Maniero

To these cars, we must add some prototypes built by Carrozzeria Michelotti, but whose design is due to the centre style of car makers :
- Fiat (“security prototypes” at the beginning of the 70’s)


After some research in the past, I’m now almost 100% sure this Boudot-Conrero has nothing to do with Alfa Romeo. It It is powered by a Conrero-tuned Renault engine. The car is designed by Paolo Martin who back then worked at Carrozzeria Michelotti.


The 'Maniero' car is not a Ford (although it is based on a Mustang) but is called Meccanica Maniero 4700 GT

Are the cars you refer to as the ‘Fiat (“security prototypes” at the beginning of the 70’s)’ the E.S.V. 1500, E.S.V. 2000 and E.S.V. 2500? Are you sure they were made at Carrozzeria Michelotti (reliable source?) and what was the exact involvement of (Carrozzeria) Michelotti in each of these projects?


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:43 pm 
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PG1964 wrote:
Anyway, maybe you are interested to write it with four hands.

And possibly with some help in terms of promotion and such by a certain website concerning Special Coachbuilding.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:55 pm 
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Thank you Michiel, it would be an honour for me.


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 Post subject: Re: General Michelotti info
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:39 pm 
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pan68 wrote:
Do you have a more accurate designation for the 1977 "Opel Coupé with sliding doors"?
Because the Opel GT2 was from 1975.


We ARE talking about the GT2. Indeed it was presented to the public in 1975 and not in 1977 as is mentioned in the Fornai book.


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