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 Post subject: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:23 am 
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Manessius Rolls Royce New Phantom


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:37 am 
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These are the cars in the advertisements: they are either late Ghosts or early New Phantoms. It is not certain that these are first bodies on the chassis, and finding out about post war (1918 - 1925) English Silver Ghosts is not easy through the lack of assembled data.


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:37 pm 
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I suppose it's the same PI posted above 59CL 1925 ( sorry, no better pictures)


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:16 pm 
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The same car


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:42 am 
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AYMAMI wrote:
I suppose it's the same PI posted above 59CL 1925 ( sorry, no better pictures)

From the Hans-Günter Zach Collection: http://www.rolls-royce-museum.de/eng/phantom1.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:43 am 
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The question for me is: for years I have seen this car at German rallies as a fixed head coupé, and after its restoration it materialised as a drop head coupé. Now, was it a drop head coupe originally which was converted to a fixed head coupé (not unheard of) which was corrected in the last restoration, or, was it a fixed head coupé orginally which was improved upon recently to be a drop head coupé?


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:37 am 
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That is being described on the website about the Zach Collection posted above.

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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:40 am 
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I know what the website says Michiel, but there is further information like pics of the car as originally delevered.


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:58 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
...but there is further information like pics of the car as originally delevered.

Nice. Where? Got those pics digitally?

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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:57 pm 
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That is a really good looking car. I'm partial to conv victoria bodies with sloping trunk areas - especially with the rear mounted spare.


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:23 pm 
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robgeelen wrote:
The question for me is: for years I have seen this car at German rallies as a fixed head coupé, and after its restoration it materialised as a drop head coupé. Now, was it a drop head coupe originally which was converted to a fixed head coupé (not unheard of) which was corrected in the last restoration, or, was it a fixed head coupé orginally which was improved upon recently to be a drop head coupé?

This is all what RM Auctions has to say about it:
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The chassis record for this particular Phantom I, 59LC, shows that it was ordered on 13th July 1925 by racing driver and Madrid distributor Don Carlos de Salamanca for one Mr. Lanser. Originally scheduled as a cabriolet by Manessius of Paris, there are notations that a three-passenger torpedo was later contemplated. In any case, the chassis came off test on 12th October and was shipped on 22nd December 1925 to Boulogne.
A notation on the chassis card shows it was sold to Clément van der Stratten of Brussels on 26th March 1928. The later history is unknown, but later modifications had included the fitting of a fixed roof. Completely restored between 1995 and 1998, 59LC was found to have the underpinnings of the originally-designated cabriolet body and was restored back to the original open design.

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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:15 pm 
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Some more pictures:


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:14 pm 
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Michiel Mobiel wrote:
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The caption says continental. If I'm right the continental chassis began on PII. Thank you for such beatiful pictures.


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 Post subject: Re: Manessius Rolls Royce
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:05 am 
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:27 am 
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