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 Post subject: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:40 pm 
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Barker Mercedes-Benz SSK


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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:05 am 
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Another picture of the 1929 Barker SSK.

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:13 am 
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Some info and more images here: http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/chas ... NumID=6084

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:46 am 
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I have been assuming that this is the ex-Dorothy Paget car that was owned by Briggs Cunningham for so long, but minus the wings and running boards. Whether these components have been retrieved from somewhere or are re-creations, I do not know.

As it is never safe to assume, can someone give a positive ID?

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:53 am 
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neuilly wrote:
As it is never safe to assume, can someone give a positive ID?

Getting deeper and deeper into this coachbuilding thing, I now start to doubt everything that has ever been offered for auction or shown at Poodle Beach. ;) :P
So I was about to ask the same thing, Clive.

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:03 am 
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Michiel, it's just perfectly normal, healthy paranoia =)

...just don't get me started on the "total originality" of SSK GC96 :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:05 am 
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Now in the Netherlands, SSK GC96. So do tell us..


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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:11 am 
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I've just pressed the button to order a new scanner, so once that's arrived and been set up, and I've shaken off what appears to "swine 'flu" , I'll have a go at that one.

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:13 am 
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On behalve of all, I wish you a speedy recovery, Clive!


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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:14 am 
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neuilly wrote:
...that was owned by Briggs Cunningham for so long, but minus the wings and running boards.

Did Briggs drive it without any wings and running boards? Or with another different looking set?

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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:20 am 
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different looking set, I seem to recall...


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 Post subject: Re: Barker Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:20 pm 
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Sorry, meant to get back before. As Rob says, a different set of wings of cycle/helmet type - which of course made it look like so, so many other SSKs, real or not.

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 Post subject: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
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Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz S ? Speedster for Malcolm Campbell. Anybody has better pics?


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:01 am 
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Sort of close, but no cigar =)

Malcolm Campbell, no - it was built for Earl Howe

Gurney Nutting, no - it was made by Barker (Howe was a director - his 38/250 was also re-bodied by them).

The car was owned for many years by H.E. "Jack" Rohll, a leading light of the Mercedes-Benz Club (U.K.) in the 50s/60s. The car has survived and I think has been shown at that place.

Pictures? There are many out there - I shall just sit back and wait. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:22 am 
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More the Ashes, I'd say, tx Neuilly.. Did Campbell actually have a S or SS with Gurney Nutting body at all?


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:57 pm 
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I don't know of a Gurney Nutting/Mercedes/Campbell connection. His 38/250 SS, the famous "GP10" had a straightforward Sindelfingen touring body as far as I know. I say that because I seem to recall reading or hearing somewhere about a little bit of friction between him and Howe over the weight difference between "GP10" and Howe's Barker re-bodied ex-Carracciola T.T. car. To the casual observer the two cars look very similar, but the Howe car was a near re-creation of the Sindelfingen body in lightweight "Birmabright". Thus I conclude that the Campbell car came with a standard body.

Just so that there is no confusion, the Howe ex-Carracciola car is not XV3314 pictured above (that is a 36/220), but a 38/250 registered UW302.

GP10 stayed in the UK for many, many years but eventually went "home". It would be nice (and make a welcome change) if it could be painted blue again.

That would be same blue as Malcolm Campbell's contemporary "Bluebird".... bodied by J. Gurney Nutting!

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:19 pm 
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Same car, i guess.
At least, it's at that place


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:42 pm 
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That's the one Anton, thanks. Again it would be a pleasant change if this were painted in its original colour. Not all Mercedes-Benz HAVE to be white!

For some reason this car seems rarely to have been photographed from the rear, even today the photographer seems to be drawn inexorably by the three-pointed star on the front. I suppose it's the usual case of photographing a Mercedes car rather than a Barker body. The photograph posted by Rob (there are others in the series) is a good one in that it shows the Barker body off to good advantage, and what a shame that that fitted luggage trunk appears to have gone missing.

Shouldn't this thread be moved to Barker now?

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:32 pm 
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Yes Barkerise it please. If I recall correctly, GP10 was in the seventies for sale at Coys of Kensington when Charles Howard ran it. I was fortunate enough to get a ride in it, which was great fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Nutting Mercedes-Benz
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:01 am 
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If this is the one car, you probably took place very big reconstruction. The entire rear of the vehicle from the fire wall is made from scratch. Even the shape of the upper part of the driver's door has been changed, not to mention the tail section.


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