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 Post subject: VDP:Bentley 6 1/2 litre Open Tourer VDP UK
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:34 am 
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VDP:Bentley Speed Six litre Open Tourer VDP UK


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 Post subject: Vanden Plas Bentley (W.O.)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:13 am 
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VandenPlas W.O. Bentley: many replica's and many standardised bodies to start with...I know the cars below to be the real McCoy....


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:42 pm 
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re: 30 8 litre Sporting Open Tourer VandenPlas : sympathically restored as recently shown


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:35 pm 
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I found two pics of a 1931 8-litre Bentley here: http://myfolderz.com/Automobile/Cars.php?d=Foreign&pg=5
The image name says "fixed head coupe", which is wrong of course. Anyone knows this car?

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:03 pm 
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"W.O." Bentleys aren't particularly my area, but the VdP drop-head body that was originally on this chassis (YR5097, July 1931) was transferred to an Isotta-Fraschini before the war. Where this body came from, and who built it, I do not know. It is sufficiently well-detailed and proportioned to even be another VdP .

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:09 pm 
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Interesting. Was this car initially built with the same Drophead body? Or was the body that went onto the Isotta of another design?

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:38 pm 
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The original body was very,very different. A two-seater with full-depth body sides curving under the chassis rails and a long sloping tail with the hint of a fin. Probably not easily identifiable as 1930.

I have just been to see if it is in Brian Smith's book on Vanden Plas, and there it is on page 118. Job no.1730, to Lord Brougham & Vaux at £595. I'm pretty sure it must also be in Johnnie Green's book too, because something must have planted the image in my mind.

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:18 pm 
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Many of the descriptions on the source http://myfolderz.com/Automobile/Cars.php?d=Foreign&pg=5 are wrong, so be careful what you introduce as a known fact.


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:31 am 
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I think that is what Michiel was saying and why he queried it. After posting I looked around and found an auction site recently quoting this car as a Vanden Plas drop-head coupe, which it plainly is not. Too many auction houses seem to have "researchers" of limited ability who just make recourse to one source and seem to have insufficient knowledge. Thankfully, those of us here have eyes to see and can perhaps stem some of these inaccuracies.

I would really like to know who made this replacement body though. The more you look at it, the better it gets and must have been made by a top-level builder. Unfortunately it does seem to have been a bit of an enigma for some time because I have now found BDC references that describe it as "unknown".

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:04 am 
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The original body went to an Isotta which was scrapped after the war.
This body is a sister body to the grey blue on this page, with significant alterations as the owner did not care for the high sides of the body which gave a claustrofobic feel, apparently. Whether the chrome embellishment on the side was then japanned, or which is more likely, this was done during its long sojourn with Dr Scher in the USA, is unknown to me. The adaptions on the body were done by a very skilled coachbuilder (VDP thus), as the embellishment shows. The body is also by VandenPlas, but came off yet another 8 litre, which had a Gurney Nutting Drop Head Coupé fitted, which has desintegrated in due course, though pieces still exist.


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:33 am 
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That's interesting Rob. So the replacement body is a heavily modified design 624 (according to Brian Smith). Unfortunately the last photograph that I can find of it before it went to the U.S. (early 60s?) is head on, so cannot see what modifications had been undertaken by that time.

Do you know, is the other 8-litre at Poodle Beach the Barnato car GP401 (YR5095)?

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:43 am 
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neuilly wrote:
Poodle Beach

Tom! Another nice one for you to use when talking about Pebble-Beached cars. :lol: :good:

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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:09 am 
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Barnato: yes, I think so.
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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:57 pm 
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1926 Bentley 3 litre Speed Model Open Two Seater by VandenPlas


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:19 pm 
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Another 3L Speed 1925


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:22 am 
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neuilly wrote:
That's interesting Rob. So the replacement body is a heavily modified design 624 (according to Brian Smith). Unfortunately the last photograph that I can find of it before it went to the U.S. (early 60s?) is head on, so cannot see what modifications had been undertaken by that time.

Do you know, is the other 8-litre at Poodle Beach the Barnato car GP401 (YR5095)?

Clive


YR5097: This picture is from Ralph Stein's book "World of The Automobile", 1973. It seems that the cut down door is a later modification. Photos of the original body and present body are in Michael Hay's book "Bentley: The Vintage Years, 1986" which I don't have.

And Yes, the Poodle Ditch car YR5095


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:25 am 
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Another original VdP body on a 8 litre YX5122


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:23 pm 
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6,5l convertible and 3l saloon


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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: VandenPlas W.O. Bentley
PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:43 pm 
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A car shown earlier


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