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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:28 pm 
Craftsman

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The green '52 Spohn on Ford chassis is now in my shop. I believe it is a different but largely similar car to the Spohn /Ford shown at the beginning of this thread because of grille variation and difference in side trim /two tone paint. The windshield is Sekurit brand and is in fine condition. Now obvious that this car is built on a 1940 Ford chassis and the original '40 firewall was employed with trimming. A later Y-block Ford OHV-8 has been installed in my car. Other than a couple of original knobs and one missing interior door handle and all four wheel cover Spohn medallions, this car is complete.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:48 pm 
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Cool. Keep the photos coming!


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:29 am 
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The seat recliner mechanisms are "Keiper Patent" and the Keiper corporation in later years bought the Recaro seat company as a subsidiary. In June 2011 Keiper was purchased by Johnson Controls. So the seats in the Spohn are rather basic cushions in frames but the recliner mechanisms which still function perfectly are Keiper.

As mentioned, the windshield is Sekurit. I find the original side glass door windows are Delog brand. The vent glasses do not have logo identification.

You may also like to see a profile photo of the car.

WANTED: "SPOHN" wheelcover center medallions. Any help? Car has none.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:34 pm 
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I have been researching to discover what suppliers Spohn used for providing of hard parts to build their customs. In the particular case of building the '40 Ford chassis 1952 Spohn custom of which I am owner....

Spohn went to Porsche and from early models of 356 they used the cabrio top latches to windshield header, exterior "square-base" door handles, the round tail lamps with "pointy" lenses, and wiper arms and blades and perhaps the wiper transmission.

Spohn went to Bosch for instrument panel switches and to VDO for the cluster.

Spohn located interior door handles and window crank handles and escutcheons /rosettes from Horch model 853. I presume the mechanisms in the door are also Horch as the escutcheons are threaded to these castings. To identify '30s Horch parts was quite a surprise. Helpfully these handles are available in the hobby and one of the originals was badly broken.

I will discover more given time. Still curious to find the interchange for the windshield which Spohn used on my car, numerous customs, and also, it appears on the later Veritas after the "bent-glass" models.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:47 am 
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Research has uncovered another source for parts used by Spohn in creating this car. 1947-48 Kaiser park lamp assemblies were employed in the frontal design. Over the decades the original Kaiser glass lenses were broken or lost and '53 Ford plastics were a close fit as shown in the attached photo.

Two more major parts hurdles to overcome:
1. Source of the windshield (common to most Spohn customs)
2. Euro headlamp assemblies (complicated by replacement with US sealed beam bulbs)


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:07 pm 
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Thanks for the pictures. After examining the Sponn bodied Veritos at Hershey last week I'm thinking you are going to be mighty happy you bought your car last month and not next month.

Btw, is the green the original color?


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:09 pm 
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alsancle wrote:
Thanks for the pictures. After examining the Sponn bodied Veritos at Hershey last week I'm thinking you are going to be mighty happy you bought your car last month and not next month.

Btw, is the green the original color?


Market value was not relevant during my purchase, though being an auction, I had to be top bidder. The car was most meaningful to my entire passion for cars as I first saw it when I was age 9 or 10 and this car worked its magic on my mind.


By 1957 this car had been painted a bold pink color.
The original color remains on the underside of the cabrio top hard boot panels and such other areas as paint is chipped or peeling and it is a lime green. I try to imitate it here as the attached photo may not represent It will be interesting to see how this posts with color changes to the font! Your monitor settings will come to play on this. Restoration plans at this time would not include the original owner's choice of the lime green paint.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:56 pm 
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Another Spohn Custom has been photo-found through a posting at Auto Puzzles. As best I can tell this is a new car. Though sharing design elements with the existing red car in the Dezer Museum, this white car has a split windshield and Dezer's does not. Car is said to be Ford chassis with Cadillac V8. Used car lot photo dates to no earlier than 1961 as that is a dark, round body '61 Ford Falcon distant over the Spohn right rear fin top.

With this addition, I have identified 26 Spohn Customs that were built and have them in a database.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:43 am 
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I made this scan today from the magazine Auto Motor und Sport, #4 of 1954. Article is "Spohn yesterday and today" by Wieselmann. This is the earliest published photo of the 1940 Ford shown at the beginning of this thread and thus the best quality and full width photo.

My question: does anyone have successive issues of Auto Motor und Sport which may have a follow-up letter to the editor adding to or correcting the original article or perhaps even adding another Spohn Custom to those shown?


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:08 am 
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Yet another Spohn Ford. This one is often called "new" or "newer" and some think the car has the look and feel of the '49-51 "new" Fords with independent front suspension chassis.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:04 pm 
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The television show Wayne Carini's "Chasing Classic Cars" featured Mr. Carini and a partner purchasing the Spohn Custom from the Dezer Collection in Florida on its installment shown 13 November in the US. These episodes become posted on the internet for viewing.

I wish these new owners good researching and display enjoyment and driving fun with their 'new' Spohn.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:06 pm 
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StillOutThere wrote:
Yet another Spohn Ford. This one is often called "new" or "newer" and some think the car has the look and feel of the '49-51 "new" Fords with independent front suspension chassis.

Another picture of the same car based on the 1940 Ford


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:31 pm 
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And another pic of the same car.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:03 pm 
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Another Spohn Ford. This one is shown and identified in Rod Builder Annual #2, 1957 as a 1950 Ford coupe. Original owner name not given. Owned at time of article by Jim Williams, a San Leandro, CA car dealer who drove it to work daily. Spohn coachwork dated as 1952 for a "US airman" and cost given as $4800. The hardtop is removable.
The photos are either underexposed or heavily inked during printing losing some detail.
Some Spohn "box of toys" design elements are common to other cars and some are newly seen on this car such as the lowered fin and staggered tail lamps.
Coachbuilders either build the design they are handed or build the design from their own drawing boards. In this case the airman has chosen his result.


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:28 pm 
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A very recent photo of the 1940 Ford-based Spohn Custom which I own during its year long display at the Petersen Auto Museum in Los Angeles. The museum has failed to install the steel convertible top parade boot which I shipped with the car.

Photo credit: Kristin Cline at DrivingLine.com .


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 Post subject: Re: Spohn Ford
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:27 pm 
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Update of the 1952 Spohn Palos (1940 Ford chassis). The car has gone to Manns Restoration near St. Louis, Missouri for thorough restoration. It is currently in tear down and discovery stage. Interesting to see some of the Spohn construction like the replacement floor overlay and the floor support plates plates added to the frame. Some two years to re-finished product.


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