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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:35 pm 
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Some more bodies shown by a paint factory as part of a big series


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:06 am 
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AYMAMI wrote:
And another one

That's not true. This is a Fernandez & Darrin K6 Cabriolet #16014. It should be withdrawn.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:37 pm 
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AYMAMI wrote:
Rob, the grey one with Paris plates, is it Picasso's car? I thought it was Van Vooren


There is a Vanvooren script in the usual place on the front wing just ahead of the running board, so this should be moved or deleted.

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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:55 am 
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1936 Hispano-Suiza J-12 T68 Cabriolet by Saoutchik


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:13 pm 
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João Gazineu wrote:
1936 Hispano-Suiza J-12 T68 Cabriolet by Saoutchik

Some more info of Chassis # 14018:
Gooding & Co. wrote:
According to the Hispano-Suiza Society, chassis number 14018 was originally fitted with this wonderful, open body by Saoutchik and was delivered to its first owner on December 30, 1936. Like much of the earliest history of this car, the first owner eludes any firm information, but it is believed that a Czech film star was the original caretaker of this J12.

The farthest trace of its history goes back to Romania, where the Hispano was used in the making of a motion picture. Apparently, after the filming, a problem developed within the 12-cylinder engine and the car was returned to France for repairs. The car, which was then reportedly owned by an Englishman, was parked at Sport-Auto, a specialist garage.

In the early 1960s, M. Gérard Crombac, the editor of the French motor magazine Sport-Auto and a long-time Hispano-Suiza enthusiast, discovered the car at the garage and immediately purchased it. At the time, he also owned an H6B, a car that he used to transport his single-seat Formula 3 car and his Lotus from track to track. Some time later, M. Crombac purchased a second J12, that time a four-door convertible. That car, too, was left in a static state in the Sport-Auto garage and for years the two sat alongside one another, immobile.

Although M. Crombac was fortunate enough to acquire the two fabulous open J12s, he sadly did not posses the means to have either car properly restored. Finally, in 1972 or 1973, M. Crombac acknowledged his circumstances and sold the Saoutchik-bodied car to Charles Howard, a noted UK dealer of important classics, for 100,000 francs.

Shortly thereafter, Mr. Howard sold the J12 to Michel Seydoux, filmmaker, businessman and heir to the incredible Sclumberger oil fortune. Mr. Seydoux, an avid enthusiast whose collection has included numerous Hispano-Suiza automobiles, a Gangloff-bodied Bugatti 57S, one of Tommy Lee’s Talbot-Lago T150Cs, a Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa and a Ferrari 250MM, was surely delighted to add such a significant French automobile to his stable. With its sporting coachwork, 9 1/2-litre V-12 and unparalleled dynamic qualities, it was the ideal car for the AGM (Amis des Grandes Marques) Rallies that he organized throughout Europe.

It was just after the purchase of this J12 that Mr. Howard also acquired the entire Sport-Auto garage and hired the former chief mechanic for Hispano-Suiza to restore the entire mechanical system in preparation for touring. Well-known Parisian restoration firm Lecoq restored the exterior of the Saoutchik body and Lalemend reupholstered the interior.

The reconditioning of the J12 was finished in 1975 and it is reported that M. Seydoux participated with the car on a rally in Normandie in 1980. Christian Huet, a French automobile expert and friend of M. Seydoux, recalls several times when he was allowed use of the J12. In a letter written during the 1980s, Huet happily recollects driving the car as far as Deauville, where pictures were taken by David Hamilton, then to Barbizon, where Franc Dieleman took an additional set of photos of the freshly revived Hispano. Mr. Huet can also be seen serving as the chauffer to Roger Moore, as he drives the J12 through the gardens of the chateau of Vaux le Vicomte in the 1979 James Bond film Moonraker.

It wasn’t until M. Seydoux purchased yet another J12, this time one of the extravagant 11-litre examples, that he finally decided it was time to sell the Sauotchik Cabriolet, a car that he had owned for almost a decade.

On April 28, 1985, the current owner purchased 14018 out of France and immediately had the Hispano shipped home to the US. Clearly a car that inspires extended ownership, this J12 has spent that past 25 years with its current caretaker, a highly regarded collector, enthusiast and Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance judge for over 20 years.

Not long after the car arrived in the US, it was treated to a complete mechanical rebuild in preparation for high-speed touring, the natural pastime of a J12. This rebuild included the steering, front axle, braking system, the transmission and the 12-cylinder engine. With regards to the engine, the rebuild was an extremely lengthy process, as every effort was made to re-build the V12 to the exacting factory tolerances. Many parts, including the hollow connecting rods and light alloy pistons, had to be made from scratch, just as they were in the Hispano-Suiza factory. Rick Hamlin, a renowned restorer and specialist in the great pre-war marques, was trusted with a vast majority of the restoration work, and the rebuild was executed to his high standards. Around that time, the car was also cosmetically freshened in a much more coherent and tasteful color scheme.

Since the rebuild, it has participated in Hispano-Suiza Society Rallies in Spain and in California and has completed two CCCA CARavans. The long-distance rallies covered the better part of 8,000 miles, yet the incredible engineering of the Hispano made every minute of the journey a comfortable and pleasurable experience. Amazingly, the J12 has also participated on the Colorado Grand rally, where it kept up with sporting machinery produced decades later. The car reportedly ran without fault even in the highest elevations, and its ability to cruise all day at 80 mph assured that it didn’t fall behind.

Although most of the mechanical work was completed in the 1990s, over the past 20 years this J12 has been treated to an almost fanatical level of maintenance to ensure that it remains in fine condition and it is reported to be ready to embark on a journey at a moment’s notice.

While its impressive history and incredible road manners make it an exciting prospect, it is its latent potential for top concours honors that makes its appearance at auction such an enticing opportunity. Although this J12 was displayed at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance in 1988 alongside a grouping of a dozen J12s, it is entirely eligible to participate again in the greatest of all concours. With a smart, sympathetic cosmetic restoration, this car has the credentials for a run at Best of Show. Its design was striking enough to prompt legendary designer and professor of automotive design, Strother MacMinn, to create a number of colored sketches that experiment with different color combinations for the coachwork.

It is easy to see why a professor of design would be drawn to such a car. The deeply raked windscreen, side-mounted spares and a rear cowl that appears to end at the rear axle, all hint at the J12s sporting performance, while its restrained details, flowing fenders, refined trunk and sheer presence reflect the impressive character of the Hispano-Suiza marque and the sophistication and elegance that are the hallmarks of French design.

Included with the sale of this masterpiece is a comprehensive file that has been painstakingly assembled over the last 25 years by its current owner. Included are expert reports (one from Christian Huet and one from Jules Huemann), photographs, an initial design study, exhaustive restoration receipts, details regarding the logistics of touring and even the data tag for chassis 13035, the motorcar that this J12 sat alongside in the Paris garage while in the ownership of M. Crombac. This file alone is an impressive exhibit of the level of meticulous care that this car has received for the past quarter century.

As one of only nine original open Hispano-Suiza J12s still known to exist, and one of only a handful built with Saoutchik coachwork, this car will always hold an important place among collectible automobiles. Beyond that, its pedigree, provenance, dynamic brilliance and preparation are qualities that will endear it to any connoisseur of fine classic automobiles. Not only is it a prize in and of itself, this J12 has tremendous potential to bring its new owner top honors at concours around the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:33 pm 
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João Gazineu wrote:
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Perhaps the second car in your post, but 'done up', and with wheelcovers, as it will be on a auction by Bonhams soon


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:39 pm 
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Another Saoutchik J12, similar to, but not the same as the light blue car, as a picture in the Green book proves it has a longer chassis and a longer body. Period pic, obviously.


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:13 pm 
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At the 1936 Paris concours d'élégance, Mme Gérard de Courcelles won with this car:
- Grand Prix des voitures ouvertes Carrossiers
- 3ème Prix d'élégance féminine

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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:00 pm 
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1936 Saoutchik Hispano-Suiza K6 Roadster at Villa d'Este 2011.
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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:47 pm 
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robgeelen wrote:
Some more bodies shown by a paint factory as part of a big series

This ad shows a two tone interpretation design of a car which was apparently actually built, but in monotone. I have yet to see a pic of the car as built, but it apparently was on the '35 or '36 Paris and/or London shows


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:41 am 
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A pretty H6C Decapotable for Mrs Neal, an American who lived in France. Note that even the the raditor surround was modified, though the mascot was left untouched.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:30 pm 
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Saoutchik Hispano Suiza H6B 'Coupé Opera', a Sedanca de Ville thus


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:30 am 
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Credits to:
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5 ... hik.langFR


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 Post subject: Re: Saoutchik Hispano Suiza
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:29 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
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Some more bodies shown by a paint factory as part of a big series

This ad shows a two tone interpretation design of a car which was apparently actually built, but in monotone. I have yet to see a pic of the car as built, but it apparently was on the '35 or '36 Paris and/or London shows

I have since found a pic of this car in the seventies in the USA: still looking for a period original pic!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:37 pm 
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A design for a J12 Saloon


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:39 am 
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Michiel Mobiel wrote:

Xenia at Retromobile 2012


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:38 pm 
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João Gazineu wrote:
1936 Hispano-Suiza J-12 T68 Cabriolet by Saoutchik

14018, this car was at Pebble Beach this year. It is now black with wheeldiscs. The pictures are from http://www.supercars.net, http://www.ultimatecar.page, http://www.conceptcarz.com, and http://www.sportscardigest.com, visits to whom I can only recommend to have a look at.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:53 pm 
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Aymami wrote:
h6B in Barcelona

Same car in nicer weather with the front openend.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:22 am 
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A pretty Faux Cabriolet de Ville coming up for auction at the Retromobile this year (Artcurial)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:47 am 
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This one is described as J12 Coupé by Saoutchik, 1933


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