Post subject: Re: Bucciali TAV12 Berline Saoutchik 1931
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:45 am
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The chassis-price/1931 was 130.000;--aFF ---> 22.500;--RM ---> 241.400;--€/2009 ; the Saoutchik-work was add. 85.630;--aFF ---> 14.820;--RM ---> 159.000;--€/2009 ; in total 215.630;--aFF ---> 37.320;--RM ---> 400.400;--€/2009. A Maybach DS7-Zepelin was chassis-23,0TRM, as Pullman-Lim in total 30,0TRM. A RR Phantom.II with Touring-Saloon-body was about 2.425;--GBP ---> 41.200;--RM.
The body on the TAV8 started life on a Mercedes-Benz 36/220 or 38/250 and was fitted in comparatively recent times. Does anyone know which particular chassis it came from? Presumably it was butchered to make yet another ersatz SSK. It would be useful to know to help in tracing all of the Saoutchik Mercedes-Benz.
Both cars in that Salon photograph have Labourdette bodies. I'm not sure that I have seen that picture before - I shall also have to look in the Huet book!
Some more period pics of the few Bucciali made, all with Saoutchik bodies (not Labourdette)
Rob, why do you think that the upper body is not by Labourdette? Over the past forty years I have been intrigued by the Bucciali creations and all investigation and correspondence has pointed to this body being by Labourdette. In his superb work on Bucciali Christian Huet provides far more authoritative evidence than I that this body is by Labourdette (of Puteaux, rather than the more familiar "Henri", and apparently unrelated).
Of course, both this body and the most celebrated Saoutchik Buccialis emanated from initial design sketches by P.A. Bucciali himself, but the hand of the carrossier inevitably makes itself evident in the final creation. Few would deny that the Saoutchik work is amongst his most vital, and the Labourdette (I contend) body here also displays some of the essence of the few other Labourdette of Puteaux bodies that I have encountered.
Location: Bilthoven Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:12 pm Posts: 4870
Clive, It was sheer laziness not to consult the book on Bucciali as it is my library. I will consult it, but the white car certainly is Saoutchik (as is the four door saloon, but that is not part of the dispute I think). As ever, I am open to new insights! Rob
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