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 Post subject: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:24 pm 
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Bronkhorst Cadillac V16 Brougham Limousine de Ville 1931. Cross of the Fleetwood Town Car and a Limousine...


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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:15 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:26 pm 
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Sorry, but this pure Fleetwood: Conam got it wrong here.


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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:34 pm 
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Ok... please help me find the differences.

1- Different number of side windows.
2- ...

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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:42 pm 
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The Bronkhorst body is longer, six light (so glass in the rear quarters), normal door handles, and to my mind started out as a big six light Limousine by Fleetwood, which was then adapted to a sedanca roof (making it a Limousine de Ville) with Brougham panneling to the rear quarter lower panels. I thinks the Sedanca roof was either a fixed panel to be left at the garage, or just a soft rolling affair, as there is no provision in the roof of the interior shown to fold in the sedanca arms which woul have to fold away in the roof.


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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:48 pm 
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Michiel Mobiel wrote:


This is the "regular" Fleetwood-bodied Town Brougham of which a mere 3 units were built with the cane deco on the rear body. Three others were built but were simply painted. I believe the Bronkhorst car was one of the 3 units built with decorative canework; it was shipped to Europe in June 1930 with 4 other V-16 models for a promotional tour lasting 3 months. None of the V-16s returned home after the tour; two were sold in Switzerland, one in Morocco it seems, one was converted to a different style by France's Jacques Saoutchik and I believe this 4th car was acquired by Bronkhorst. So far, the 5th car is unaccounted for.

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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:13 am 
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They are not the same car/ If you look at the Bronkhorst bodied car (first picture) then you will see it is a six light limousine , probably by Fleetwood, converted in to a Limousine de Ville with simulated cane work on the rear door and on the side panels behind it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bronkhorst Cadillac V16
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:48 pm 
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robgeelen wrote:
They are not the same car/ If you look at the Bronkhorst bodied car (first picture) then you will see it is a six light limousine , probably by Fleetwood, converted in to a Limousine de Ville with simulated cane work on the rear door and on the side panels behind it.

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The first two images show the obvious differences in interiors between the regular Fleetwood style "4264B" Town Brougham and the same model after it was "stretched" by Bronkhorst and two full-width, folding auxiliary seats were added.

BTW, in the absence of any surviving "4264B" cars, a similar Fleetwood "4291" town car was "rebuilt" to copy it; the latter car had the same interior design as the town brougham (last photo).

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(Left) the "stretched" car with full-width auxiliary seats; (right) the "short" town brougham with lightweight "opera seats"

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(Top) The Bronkhorst 6-window town brougham poses in front of the Bronkhorst coachbuilding facility (lower photo)

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(Left) Fleetwood style "4291" town car; (right) an identical car "rebuilt" to create the "4264B" town brougham


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