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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:23 pm 
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its really an intersting discussion, and there is literally no start nor ending. Many of the famous coachbuilders make their breadmoney stamping standard bodies for production cars. Alas many "special" jobs became standardized already back in the 30:ies especially around the RR/Bentley sphere.
Sindelfingens Mercedes' is another example of main production plus adding soem pzazz jobs now and then which I certainly find valuable highlighting here. Spohn were manily devoted to Maybach but did some jobs through the backdoor now and then.


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:44 am 
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And how should this one be defined?


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:17 am 
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Michiel Mobiel wrote:
And how should this one be defined?


I would define it as an atrocity :shock:

As for the main topic of this thread: I think that, whereas the main site and the gallery should focus on 100% coachbuilt cars - e.g. falling under all the requirements stated in the introduction to the site, the forum should be a place where anything and everything concerning this topic finds its place.

I would be happy if this forum presented a perepective of specialised car body design as thoroughly as possible. Excluding show cars, elaboratas, racing cars, designs that later became mass-produced etc. is arbitrary and many cases are hard to classify into one of the mentioned categories.

When for example writing about Zagato, why not include a thread where his production car designs are shown, another with industrial (non-automotive) design, one for the elaboratas and so on. All that of course in addition to the threads devoted to coachbuilding for various makes.

Specialisation is a great thing, but it shouldn't prevent people from being able to see the big picture. It's just a matter of proportions - we focus on coachbuilding but should also show (probably in less detail) everything else that allows the readers to understand a certain company or designer.

I am not sure if I expressed my thoughts clear enough, English is my second language after all :)
(But, fortunately, it is true for most of us here :P )


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:49 am 
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ImpishGrin wrote:
When for example writing about Zagato, why not include a thread where his production car designs are shown, another with industrial (non-automotive) design, one for the elaboratas and so on. All that of course in addition to the threads devoted to coachbuilding for various makes.

Specialisation is a great thing, but it shouldn't prevent people from being able to see the big picture. It's just a matter of proportions - we focus on coachbuilding but should also show (probably in less detail) everything else that allows the readers to understand a certain company or designer.

I agree. This was one of the main reasons to start this forum next to the website.
What you describe is basically already happening here. Non-coachbuilt cars, concepts, styling sketches, individual designers, etc... are very nice and interesting to add and discuss for the more complete overview. After all, the forum and the website are also about design and the specific designers, also the obscure ones who tried, but did not manage to become one of the great names.
For the website and the gallery we focus on coachbuilding and we can simply select info and photos from the topics in this forum. However, your opinion on the matter "Special Coachbuilding" matters.

You members are all interested in the most special and unique projects from the past and present, so I'm quite sure when the content becomes too mainstream, it will eventually fade away and die out, because those ordinary cars are to be found all over the internet. It is the great search for the unknown, obscure and most artistic projects of all that keeps us going.

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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:36 pm 
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A nice headstart on Sindelfingen:
(At least i think it was made by Sindelfingen)


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:27 pm 
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It was and the Sindeklfingen group is long overdue!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:43 pm 
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I doubt, maybe it's just a replicas, but it is definitely built on the Corvette C5 bodies.
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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:59 pm 
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I posted some pictures of an Auburn-Fuller bodied L29 here: viewtopic.php?f=81&t=4488

After talking to noted Duesenberg Expert Randy Ema, I've learned there was probably more then 1/2 a dozen custom bodies built by Fuller.


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:33 am 
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Coachbuilders are alive and well!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:29 pm 
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Some fine work going on there!


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 Post subject: Re: Special Coachbuild, YES or NO?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:46 pm 
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richardowen wrote:
Coachbuilders are alive and well!!!!!

In my opinion this is only heavy tuning...but it's only my opinion...
I think different bumpers and fenders are not enough to make a real coachbuild.
This topic is to discuss the definition of coachbuild, so it's the perfect place for them.
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