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 Post subject: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:00 pm 
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Duesenberg J St.Cloud Sedan by Weymann. Despite the French name, it is a US Weymann body. Car still exists, but with a replica open body in Yellow and White. Alas, Weymann bodies did not have longevity as one of their USP's


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 Post subject: Re: Duesenberg Weymann
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:15 am 
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It is J251-2259 1929


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 Post subject: Re: Duesenberg Weymann
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:56 am 
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AYMAMI wrote:
It is J251-2259 1929


So is the same!


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:41 pm 
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Either this is a later re-creation or the original body was re-united with the original or with another chasis then?


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:10 pm 
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Maybe a recreation. Not much succesful looking at the louvres of the hood


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:20 pm 
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This appears to be J 496-2511 I would say Weymann LaGrande body but perhaps it is Walker LaGrande. Any information? Tom?. A stunning one.


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:34 pm 
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Yes, it is ...2511, but D.-Brunn Torpedo-Phaeton LWB/1932 - Gordon-Buehring-design - owner: Marcus Lawrence
http://images.google.de/images?gbv=2&hl ... q=&start=0

... Yours, FWo ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:57 am 
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No. Not a Brunn design.
The car in your link is J 396-2410 a duplicate of a Weymann-LaGrande torpedo phaeton body style, penned by Gordon Buehrig like this one I've posted.
Its chassis was originally 2319 carrying a Willoughby limousine until destroyed. The engine J 396 also come frome a destroyed Derham sedan, car 2410. The reproduction of this torpedo phaeton body began in the 70's for collector Johnnie Basset who passed away before it was finished. It was later acquierd by Ed Lucas who finished the complete restoration. Altough a rebodied car, the Basset-Lucas can be considered as a true Duesenberg
And, in the picture i've posted the car shows the typical pipes of SJ, altough it's not, lake many other Duesys.
The doubt I have is there are similar bodies made by Walker-LaGrande


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:02 am 
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Another phaeton torpedo by Weymann J 526-2554


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:04 pm 
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According to the source: Duesenberg SJ with Weymann "fish-tail speedster" body.
Anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:57 pm 
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Duesenberg-Weymann SJ-Speedster/1933
# 2507-J-508 Long ; designed by Gordon Buehring on a supercharged chassis with roll-up windows ; this body-style was nicknamed 'fishtail' by Buehring ; chassis-price: 8.500;--US$ ; total: 18.000;--US$ ;
01,00US$/1933 > 16,74US$/2010 ;
01,00US$/1933 > 04,20 GER-RM/1933 > 52,67€/2010
01,00US$/1933 > ~00,30GBP(06-shilling)/1933 > 16,88GBP/2010 ...,

... FWo ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:08 am 
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Boybentley wrote:
According to the source: Duesenberg SJ with Weymann "fish-tail speedster" body.
Anyone?

This is the real one fish-tail. Nowadays there's another one, 2356-J508, which is a replica. You can see the proportions of this car in these shots in London.


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:08 am 
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The real McCoy: bought by the slightly excentic George Whitell as his chied of the fire brigade car: not used much (he preferred to stay at home as much as he could anyway), it had done only 1350 miles or so when sold to Harrah's. So not yet run in....


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:54 am 
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Another picture:


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:02 pm 
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More of the same or another?


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:16 pm 
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I don't know about that, but here's some more:


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:39 pm 
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another period pic


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 Post subject: Re: Weymann Duesenberg
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:14 pm 
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The car (J251) is very much alive an well and in it's original form. It's in my garage. The current pic was taken at the St Louis Museum of Transport where it resided for a few months. The car was restored over a 30 year period by my Father and me. It still has the original body with some new wood.


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