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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:26 pm 
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Yes, same car, same show, LALW 31 at 1952 Paris Salon


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:13 am 
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1937 Franay bodied Rolls Royce 25/30 Saloon for M. Dreyfus, GRP33, at http://www.therealcarcompany.co.uk


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:49 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
1937 Franay bodied Rolls Royce 25/30 Saloon for M. Dreyfus, GRP33, at http://www.therealcarcompany.co.uk

A shot of the car in a somewhat healthier condition, the link to where it's for sale now should be: www.realcar.co.uk ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:54 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
The Silver Wraith is Chassis WVA 63 delivered to Dr. M. Abdel Latif, in Switzerland, in December 1947

Another shot of this car at the Deauville Concours 1948.


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:03 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
Chassis LBLW70 was a long wheelbase left hand drive chassis Silver Wraith with a Limousine body by Franay similar to the 1952 car, in black and white for delivery to Prince Mohammed bin Saud Al-Kabeer. It is sometimes listed as also being a Sedanca de Ville, but it is not.

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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:07 am 
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1953 Silver Wraith Limousine de Ville (#LBLW12) Delivered new to Mme. Olga Martin-Montis, mother of Alfonso de Portago. Now in America with same owner since 1971.


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:28 am 
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This is the well known Franay Phantom III as it was shown on the Paris Motor Show


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:30 pm 
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The PIV 4AF22 today. (Picture taken from Flickr)


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:27 pm 
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This Silver Wraith Sedanca de Ville was waiting for a better life when photographed in Cairo in 1978 as shown in Autopuzzles.com. It is a short wheel base chassis, of which one was made for Aristotle Onassis, and an earlier one for a Saudi royal client, which was not listed as left hand drive but most likely was. The design is similar, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:41 pm 
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Same car Rob! Not a long wheelbase?


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:06 pm 
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NOT a long wheelbase. But possibly the same car. The car in Egypt is left hand drive, however...


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 Post subject: Franay Rolls-Royce Phantom II
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:23 am 
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As far as I know the only Phantom II bodied by Franay, a Landaulette de Ville (#110GN) delivered in 1930 to Mrs. Louise Kerckhoff of Los Angeles. She was the widow of William G. Kerckhoff, a very rich entrepeneur of German origin.


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:45 am 
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Thank you so much Anton for this significative picture. I'm inclined to think that this car is on sale for restoration right now:
http://www.gullwingmotorcars.com/detail ... 45504.html.
That makes increase the mystery on Rob's car posted on March 23 2011 (see previous page) :(


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:59 pm 
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It's definitely the Gullwing car :good:


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:55 pm 
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Boybentley wrote:
It's definitely the Gullwing car :good:

More pictures of the corpse: :x
http://classiccars.com/classifieds/Slid ... gid=353892


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:49 pm 
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Not too bad, really, most of it all seems to be there, but it is of course a full restoration..Here as seen before..


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
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robgeelen wrote:
Not too bad, really, most of it all seems to be there, but it is of course a full restoration..

Agree. I've seen worse ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:41 pm 
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WVA63 at auction. Scottsdale by Barret Jackson. The metalic turquoise in american tatste didn't fit at all., much better in black, looks like another car.
More pictures: http://www.barrett-jackson.com/applicat ... 45&aid=466


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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:24 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
LELW 2 was a 1955 left hand drive Silver Wraith long wheel base chassis with 4566 cc engine and automatic gearbox, which was supplied to Franay for an American customer, Mrs. J. Thomas Russell, who kept changing her mind about what she wanted. At first a traditional Limousine was planned, then it evolved to the car seen here, with more modern, even sporty lines. Subsequently the customer decided on having an integral airconditioning system installed, which neccessitated the removal of the body once more, and the reurn of the chassis to Rolls Royce. On this occasion in 1958, Rolls Royce updated the specification of the chassis to then current standard with a bigger engine (4877cc) as well as power assisted steering. This again forced Franay to adapt the body again. When the whole car was finished it was nearly 1959, but the customer was travelling and only took delivery in May 1959. That year the new V8 engined Rolls Royces were introduced, and she soon was persuaded to trade her car in for the latest model.


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" The coachwork was begun by French carrossier Franay who closed his doors before finishing the commission. Henri Chapron who was highly regarded for his elegant and restrained designs completed this 7 passenger car." It is right ?

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 Post subject: Re: Franay Rolls-Royces
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:34 am 
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Boybentley wrote:
1953 Silver Wraith Limousine de Ville (#LBLW12) Delivered new to Mme. Olga Martin-Montis, mother of Alfonso de Portago. Now in America with same owner since 1971.


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