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 Post subject: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:39 am 
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Another Studebaker


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:03 am 
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robgeelen wrote:
Another Studebaker


That is the Italsuisse car not a Lombardi.
http://www.pietro-frua.de/italsuisse/1960_studebaker.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:15 am 
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It may have had a hand of Frua in it, but according to the specialist Studebaker site this was built by Lombardi.


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:52 am 
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According to the Italsuisse page there was a Carrozzeria Lombardi 4-door Studebaker with the same name displayed on the 42th Salon in Turin.
The car you've posted should definetely be the Italsuisse version (2- and 4- doors) which is linked in the previous post.

Unfortunately I've never seen the 4-door Lombardi so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:07 pm 
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Although I have only a drawing of the car, this is the Studebaker Lark 'Italia' by Francis Lombardi that was presented on the 1960 Turin Motor show:


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:12 pm 
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il fiammingo wrote:
Although I have only a drawing of the car, this is the Studebaker Lark 'Italia' by Francis Lombardi that was presented on the 1960 Turin Motor show:

The 4-door Stud clearly has the same chrome treatment in the radiator, identical to the Italsuisse 2-door and different from this Studebaker Lark 'Italia' by Francis Lombardi.

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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:32 pm 
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by courtesy of Stefan Dierkes here's another drawing of the four-door Italia.


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:38 pm 
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It feels to me like I have stirred up - unwittingly - a hornet's nest. My quote came from the specialised Studebaker site on these cars. In spite of the statement on the Frua site, here it is stated that the four door sedans were actually built by Lombardi. Anyway, it seems that this is probably not true.


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:42 pm 
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Studebaker -Frua Lark Prototype
As an alternative to the Studebaker Lark, designed of Duncan MacRae, Torino based designer Pietro Frua, on behalf of the Italian Importer, Renato Bornigia, created two styling exercises during 1960. The cars were built by the coach works Carrozzeria Frua, in Torino (1960 two door, V8) and Carrozzeria Francis Lombardi (1960 Studebaker Italia - four door V8), in Vercelli .

The Two Door (1960), from a U.S. Site.
The November 3-13, 1960 presentation at the 42nd Salone Internazionale dell´Automobile in Turin.

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The 1961 Four door, Studebaker Italia from the Carrozzeria Francis Lombardi . March 16-26, 1961
at the Italsuisse exhibition booth at the 31st International Automobile Salon in Geneva.

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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:47 pm 
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That statement is what I am referring to. Now is that not now confusing :?


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:50 pm 
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Some color to it all...


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:54 pm 
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The joy of designers and coachbuilders working together, out sourcing, booth sharing, etc... !!
Behold the first steps towards the 'open source' developed vehicle. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:58 pm 
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We had a new Studebaker Commander in 1964 (and I have a '51 Land Cruiser now),
so there's a soft spot in my heart for the marque. The V8-powered coupe and sedan
Italias would have been very quick, and are rather pretty to look at with their light,
open greenhouses, and unique period styling.

Arriving at a Studebaker Club Meet in a swank, Italian one-off would be quite a coup.
Bellissima!

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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:15 am 
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I guess there are some adjustments needed:

the seemingly reliable US Studebaker source took all pics from Stefan Dierkes pages except of the first one.
All (copied) pages are showing the Frua designed Studebaker Italia Sedan and Coupé.
The given fact that Lombardi produced the 4-door sedan based on an agreement is a misinterpretation resp. mistranslation from S. Dierkes' original descriptions.
Obvious similarities between the Frua and Lombardi design were probably unintended and due to the fact of similar requirement specifications given by the commissioner. Lombardi and Frua didn't cooperate, but were competitors at that project.

Probably, but not proven the four door Lombardi Italia was never built as the client finally preferred the Frua design after both Carrozzerias had presented their Coupés.

So, appearantly everything's a little less romantic ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:55 am 
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One day some one will produce a pic of the Lombardi Studebaker, or insight in the story, or not, of course. Some things will remain in the mist of the times, no matter how we would be looking towards resolving it here and now. Perhaps the Studebaker archives (if extant) can resolve this.


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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:58 pm 
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While waiting for the Jacques Cousteau of Coachbuild.com to emerge from his bathyscape,
clutching the answer to this deep mystery in his cold wet hands,
check out this Timeline of Concept Cars...

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 Post subject: Re: Lombardi Studebaker
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:06 pm 
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Och ye, wicked wonder from the west.. :))


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